March 9, 2026

“From Philly to Pura Vida: Richard Blank’s Vision Quest, Pinball Empire & the INXS Rock Story You Won’t Believe”

“From Philly to Pura Vida: Richard Blank’s Vision Quest, Pinball Empire & the INXS Rock Story You Won’t Believe”

Send a text What happens when a 27‑year‑old dreamer from Philadelphia walks away from expectations, guilt, and the “safe path” to chase a vision that won’t leave him alone? On this episode of Kali‑Kat’s Tap Talks, we sit down with Richard Blank, a CEO whose life story feels like a blend of spiritual quest, entrepreneurial gamble and rock‑and‑roll legend. Richard didn’t just move abroad he reinvented himself. Landing in Costa Rica with no safety net, he built Costa Rica’s Call Center from scra...

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What happens when a 27‑year‑old dreamer from Philadelphia walks away from expectations, guilt, and the “safe path” to chase a vision that won’t leave him alone? On this episode of Kali‑Kat’s Tap Talks, we sit down with Richard Blank, a CEO whose life story feels like a blend of spiritual quest, entrepreneurial gamble and rock‑and‑roll legend.

Richard didn’t just move abroad he reinvented himself. Landing in Costa Rica with no safety net, he built Costa Rica’s Call Center from scratch, eventually growing to 150 employees and training over 10,000 telemarketers in advanced communication, rhetoric, conflict management and interpersonal soft skills. His leadership philosophy blends psychology, empathy, gamification and old‑school human connection the kind AI can’t replicate.

But Richard’s journey isn’t just about business. It’s about identity, courage and choosing a life that feels true. His story begins with a deeply personal vision quest that pushed him to break free from expectations and trust his intuition. That decision opened doors he never imagined including one that leads straight to a global rock icon.

Because when most CEOs talk about “culture,” they mean casual Fridays.
Richard?
He hired Garry Gary Beers of INXS to produce a full rock song and music video filmed inside his call center. A legendary bassist. A Costa Rican office floor. A music video shot between cubicles and headsets. It’s the kind of story that makes you stop and ask: Who actually pulls something like this off?

Richard does because he follows the sparks most people ignore.

In this episode, we explore:

  • How he built a thriving company in a foreign country with no roadmap
  • Why he believes tone, storytelling and emotional intelligence outperform any script
  • The pros and cons of AI in customer support and where humans still win
  • How he became a guest on 300+ podcasts
  • Why he endows a scholarship for students studying world languages
  • How a Gen‑X dream turned into the largest restored pinball and jukebox collection in Costa Rica
  • What motivates people, what burns them out and what leaders often get wrong

Richard’s story is a reminder that extraordinary lives belong to people willing to take extraordinary risks people who trust their instincts, embrace their quirks and refuse to settle for a life that doesn’t feel like their own.

If you’re an entrepreneur, a builder, a dreamer or someone standing at the edge of a big decision, this conversation will hit you right where you need it. Richard’s energy is electric. His wisdom is earned. His journey is unforgettable.

Pura Vida and welcome to the world of Richard Blank.

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Alright everybody, welcome to Cali Cat Tap Talks.

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I got an amazing person here, and his name is Richard Blank, and he's gonna talk about how he left Philly at 27, moved to Costa Rica, built an amazing business with 10,000 employees, I believe, right?

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10,000 employees, and he just followed his dream, so we're gonna listen to that.

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And he's a pinball guy, which is really amazing because here, you know, I'm from California, so in Alameda uh County, there's a pinball museum, and every year they open it up uh for beer heads, and we go and drink beer and we play pinball, which is pretty, pretty cool.

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So let's get right back to Richard.

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Tell us your journey.

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Kalika, I'm so happy to be with you and your audience today.

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This is awesome.

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Love me by the first round.

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But uh, yeah, what a story.

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The long shot from Philadelphia.

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In fact, prior to going live on this podcast, you and I were talking about being the long shot and being authentic and giving back.

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So yeah, I'm one of you.

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You're one of me, I'm one of everybody.

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So I I was just a kid that followed his dream.

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I was a Spanish major in college.

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Postgrad, I worked for an importer of Corona beer.

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So I can talk a little bit about doing promotions and going around the four corner states and uh hanging out with the distributors.

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You know, but it was it was a good run.

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And then at 27, yeah, I came to Costa Rica and decided to stay, fell in love, started a business.

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And uh the only correction is yes, 10,000.

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But those are individuals that passed through my training classes, not all of them stayed.

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Uh throughout the course of two decades, I've trained over 10,000, but my company has grown to you know a solid 150 over the years.

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It's small, but it packs a punch.

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Uh just trying to do it the old school way, Cali Cat, just trying to pay it forward with some good lessons so they can take it with them for the rest of their lives.

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So at the age of 27, did you think that you were going to move over uh to Costa Rica?

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I was built in on momentum, Cali.

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And so sometimes it's like a boxer training.

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They just want to get in the ring and get in the game.

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And so when I had this one in a million opportunity, I had a very good bass Spanish.

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And I had the desire, and 27's a great age.

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I still had my hair.

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And so I came down here and a friend of mine gave me a great job, and I got a chance just to ease into it compared to being thrown into it.

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And so I made a lot of good friends, and you know, when you have good intentions, it's very easy to acclimate and become a part of another community.

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You just show skin, keep an open mind, kind of go with the flow because you're not the big man on campus anymore, you're the new kid.

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And so your senses are just enhanced.

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Besides the translation and the Spanish, every day is something new and something fresh.

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And so, you know, not only are you on your toes, but I believe that your life is much more lucid and and alive.

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And so I was kind of addicted to that rush of being an expatriate and being the one kid that kind of has to make new friends and and build on that personality.

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Wow, wow.

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So you um said you had a hundred and fifty employees, you trained over ten thousand.

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I I'm still like set back from how did you come about with the idea of the call center?

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Great question, Kelly.

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Well, I was only supposed to be here for two months, but I decided to stay.

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And I got past my parents' guilt and other expectations.

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And I stayed at my friend's call center, and I learned the business from the inside out.

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So I got to sit with people.

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You know, it's a ton of testing before buying.

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And so in the course of four years, I went through multiple departments and learned the ins and outs.

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And so when it was time for me to choose a career in my mid-30s, when I had the maturity and the impulse control and some capital, I kind of was going with what I know.

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The only difference is I needed specialists, I needed people that had expertise in IT and the technology, I needed a labor law attorney and a human resources department.

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I couldn't do all that.

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So I needed to bring in team players.

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But as the core of the crew, sharing the soft skills, Cali cat, that you and I have, the sort of empathy that's extended, and the sort of California-Philadelphia mix that when you move abroad, people are just dying to learn it.

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Yeah, we were we were teaching fun classes, kind of like the favorite teacher that you had or the gym coach that motivated you.

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And so I like to incorporate play, which is the pinball and the other arcade machines, with some personality.

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And I'm teaching people where English was their second language.

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So once again, it was enabling me as a native speaker to adjust grammar, make suggestions in regards to diplomatic and strategic vocabulary, and give the people composure to make and receive phone calls and doing at a certain high class level so they have these skills and become extremely marketable.

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Wow.

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So, what made you give back to students?

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Very simply put, I did not have the grades when I graduated the proud Abington High School in '91.

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Um I was an average student.

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I excelled outside the classroom.

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I was a tri-letterman and raised money in different areas and had fun.

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But the grades weren't carrying it.

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I couldn't get into good colleges.

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And so my dedicated Spanish teacher, Dona Esperanza Galchak, and the late principal, Norman Schmidt, they both wrote me recommendation letters, and both of them were enough to get me into the University of Arizona.

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So without them, their support, their leverage, their faith in me to get my act together, it would have never happened.

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And so the circle's complete.

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I now do a second language scholarship for someone graduating Admiral so I can play for their books freshman here.

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But a second language scholarship, I mean, I'm not putting anything away from the arts or athletics or other areas where people can get a scholarship.

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But the second language to me was interesting.

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Why?

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Because I did it.

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You know, people in my family couldn't believe it.

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It was outside the box in the bubble.

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And so anyone that has that dedicated practice and that sort of desire, that is something that you can't spin.

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And when you meet someone from that other culture and they embrace it, and they all they want to do is enhance it.

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Um, it was such a nice um reinforcement that I was getting from the Latino community.

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I kind of knew I was doing something right.

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And um yeah, it was just collecting quarters.

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Kept adding up, you know, enough money to go to the arcade.

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Yeah, I I think it was meant for you to go to Costa Rica and start your spiritual journey over there, um, which is simply amazing.

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Um, so you hired a bassist.

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It's uh Gary Beers to produce a rock song for you.

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For your audience that doesn't know Cali Cat, Gary Gary Beers, the bassist of the legendary Australian band MXS.

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Make a long story short, the first one I ever made down here was Roberto Ruiz, better known as Pygney Faroe, a rocker that goes back to the late 70s.

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Anyway, you'd have been friends for a couple decades.

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And he decided to write a song for my call center called Shine Like the Sun.

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So we produced a local song, played around the country with it.

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Next thing you know, I was listening to a podcast interview of Gary Beers talking about his creates uh custom-made bases out in Los Angeles.

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And so I went on his website, and one section said, Hire Gary.

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I checked it out.

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Callie Cat, he goes, if you got a song, send it to me, and if it makes the cut, I'll work with it on you.

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And he started off at like 600 bucks.

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And so I was like, What?

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I would do that just for an autograph.

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And so I wrote him and I let him know I had a song, and the guy wrote me back, and I couldn't believe it.

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I was so starstruck.

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It was like Santa Claus.

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I was writing him a three-page letter how much I loved in excess.

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And um he liked the song, and it was very interesting.

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He was in Los Angeles, he was able to take out the bass that we sent to him, and he overlapped his version from being conservative to funky, a couple different versions.

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He put in some synthesizers, some percussion, sent it back, and a guy mixed it, and they also did a performance video.

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And um what an experience! Music.

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What a great way to transfer energy between humans.

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It's a gift that keeps on giving.

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I've listened to that song a thousand times, and the fact that uh it was produced uh is amazing.

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But thank you for bringing that up, Cali Cut.

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Yeah, I I I saw it, I was like, man, you you are just an amazing uh journey.

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I mean, didn't you ever want to make an MTV video from the 80s?

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I got arcade games come all convertible, cover like convertible.

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I was like a kid's dream come true.

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And um, you know, you get to play.

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And if you can support the arts in one way or another, that's amazing.

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My thing was I like producing music, so yeah, yeah, I got a chance.

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Wow.

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So being an entrepreneur, was that an easy task, or was that um a hard task for you?

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You could look at it two ways.

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Some people say get the job with the salary and the benefits, but you kind of get tapped out and and there's really not that security.

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In my mid-30s, I kinda wanted to test myself.

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But I wanted to do it in a conservative way.

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I didn't overextend by just renting places and doing things and then going bust.

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I uh I was renting a turnkey station at a blended center, like an internet cafe, so I could build it per seat per month, pay my taxes and make a margin.

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So I could, once again, the the risk and the reward was fantastic.

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I it was just play as you go, kind of like getting a plain seat.

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You're still making money, and uh it just wasn't glamorous.

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And so through like the game of life, you just keep expanding.

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So from there I was able to rent space and get secondhand computers, which was able to offset price, and then I was able to purchase a building and grow from there.

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But I tell you what, if you think you got it, then go for it.

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At least test it and see where you go.

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And I had a lot of naysayers and gray believers out there that were telling me I should be going into different careers, and there's social expectations.

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Come on, Cali Cat, no one writes a blueprint of being a CR of a call center and Spanish, and that's why my stuff is interesting.

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I had a couple zigging zags in there, a couple half moon curves.

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None of this was just a straight line set up for me.

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I I don't know.

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Maybe I wanted to slay a dragon and save a princess and have some sort of life that I was at least content with.

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And um to be an entrepreneur, you gotta be brave.

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And you need to, during those private moments when there's people there not watching it, those are the ones that count the most.

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When you're getting up early, staying up late, sacrificing certain days or events.

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And so those are the ones that know how to grind it, and they have the capacity to do the long game.

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And some people call it the forced march.

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I'm not talking about creating an app and being a millionaire overnight.

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I'm not saying that.

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I'm talking Calicat, you and I go in the full 12 rounds, the full distance, really getting off of that mountain and getting across that desert or surviving on the high seas.

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It's those stories of relentless endurance and faith in oneself where you become crazy in a sense to keep on going.

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But those that do continue that remaining 20%, they're they're the ones that usually can achieve greatness.

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That's the only way I can explain it in that sort of term.

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Wow, wow.

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So, what would you tell a person that wants to pursue a dream?

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At least test things.

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What sort of dream are you looking for?

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It's very broad.

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My my thing was built on momentum.

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The Spanish turned into work, and I take the Spanish where it could work.

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I know naturally I couldn't take my Spanish and go to East Germany.

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I mean, it wouldn't make sense.

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And so um what I was thinking was how could I have a foundation almost like a basket where I can catch?

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And so by practicing certain public speaking skills, writing skills, rhetoric, copious dictation note-taking before AI was even created.

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Learning to be interested compared to being interesting, and and really just engaging.

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And and not for just false flattery, just to, I don't know, just to see if people have any sort of depth and can they tell you a half-decent story.

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Why?

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So maybe ten years from now, someone ever says, Hey, do you know Callie Cat?

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I go, Of course I know Callie Cat.

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What an impression she left on me.

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Super duper.

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And so that's what I'm saying.

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It it could be the fleeting five minutes where you meet someone, but they make such an impression that you remember it for the rest of your life.

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I don't need all of your time, I just need a few minutes, and if we can have a high five and connect and share a smile and a story, then I've passed that flame of the candle, and we now we can move on.

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And so um that's the way I see things, my friend.

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I I don't like pushes and pulls, I like really natural motions and and movement, so it just it it feels right.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I I I totally agree with you.

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And um I wish I just had you earlier in my life.

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Yeah, but then it would have been a lot different.

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You needed to be here at this stage now, you needed those scars.

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I guess hey, but learning from failure.

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What was your learned failure?

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Because some people think when they fail, they just give up.

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I think when you fail, you're learning.

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And you just need to move on and learn from your failure.

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What was yours?

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Kelly Cat, it really depends on the weight.

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Really?

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Was it my own weight?

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Or was the failure due to individuals that had some sort of influence on it?

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And so I try not to carry that weight.

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I'd I'd rather get disappointed than angry.

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Angry's heavy, it's a heavy red.

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I don't like that.

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And so I gotta let it wash over me, go through me, just you gotta put it to bed.

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And so, guess what, kiddo?

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I'm gonna take this big pile that you keep talking about, and I'm gonna break it down into little, little piles.

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So, A, it's manageable, and B, I can cut out 90% of the fat.

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Yeah, I'll take 10%, but the 90% I gotta I gotta put away because it is either outside of my control.

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It was something that someone sabotaged or deliberately did not come through that I depended upon.

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And and so you can't be hard on yourself.

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And when I look at failure, I gotta really scale it from a one to a ten.

00:16:50.240 --> 00:16:56.399
If I'm an idiot and I really did not put gas in my car and I'm in the middle of nowhere, that's on me.

00:16:57.440 --> 00:17:05.200
But uh, you know, there's certain times when someone else is having a bad day and they create a terrible experience at dinner.

00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:09.920
Or there's somebody that's just not considerate of others in public.

00:17:10.720 --> 00:17:14.640
And so, um, what do you do?

00:17:15.359 --> 00:17:16.400
What do you do?

00:17:16.480 --> 00:17:18.640
And so failure to me, mesh.

00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:23.519
The only time it upsets me, my good friend, is if I failed you.

00:17:23.920 --> 00:17:40.720
Because Calicat means more to me than 50 bucks or something else, but I also have to put myself in your shoes and take 99 examples of our friendship into consideration compared to the one time you didn't text back, pick me up on time, forgot something.

00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:43.359
I mean, come on, cut or break.

00:17:44.000 --> 00:17:47.279
And and so I I kind of scale things that way.

00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:52.160
Nothing's really a deal breaker, nothing should be an ultimatum.

00:17:52.559 --> 00:18:00.960
And so, and I treat myself the same way, Cali Cat, because I don't want to carry that weight, to be completely honest with you in regards to failure.

00:18:01.119 --> 00:18:04.640
But if you're talking about business, I've had a thousand failures.

00:18:04.880 --> 00:18:06.480
Oh yeah, I got lucky.

00:18:06.720 --> 00:18:08.799
Just the one home run at the right time.

00:18:09.039 --> 00:18:10.480
But uh, yeah.

00:18:11.119 --> 00:18:12.319
So be it.

00:18:12.480 --> 00:18:21.920
You know, do you just want me to post the greatest times on Facebook or Instagram, or do you want to get raw and just talk about the times I had to get back up after getting knocked down?

00:18:23.759 --> 00:18:25.200
Let's get raw.

00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:27.359
We ended.

00:18:28.559 --> 00:18:28.880
Oh.

00:18:29.839 --> 00:18:34.319
So with with with all that said, and you and you mentioned AI.

00:18:34.720 --> 00:18:37.839
How how will AI affect your business?

00:18:38.160 --> 00:18:45.599
It's definitely gonna gather, and it will not it'll have reduced error, fatigue.

00:18:45.920 --> 00:18:49.759
You can have 24-7 now, you can have a queue that could be a million people long.

00:18:49.920 --> 00:18:51.680
Everyone's gonna get answered.

00:18:52.079 --> 00:19:11.759
My only suggestion is because it will be taking the first and second levels of customer support through omni-channel non-voice, through texting, chat, emails, or as I say, if it's voice, it's integrated voice, where if they get better at it, where you don't have to repeat or enter, they will be able to answer the top 20 questions.

00:19:11.839 --> 00:19:18.400
It's what people like you and I may need from time to time for frustrated.

00:19:18.640 --> 00:19:23.279
If there's a sense of urgency, or depending on the importance, we may press zero.

00:19:23.599 --> 00:19:34.960
And I may want to, if I'm spending this money and this is a valued client relationship, I might want to speak to somebody on the phone to either resolve my issue, let me vent, or just see if there's a better deal.

00:19:35.119 --> 00:19:59.599
And so you will have a higher class concierge department at call centers that will be working with individuals like myself and other generations that prefer certain hand holding and personal contact compared to things that are done just via text or an email, and so um, but that is how it is, I believe, in fair play.

00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:12.799
If somebody has a dollar and they'd rather put it with a kiosk and get their hamburger perfect with extra pickles, better in that business because Joey behind the counter made that mistake.

00:20:13.200 --> 00:20:14.240
What do you want me to say?

00:20:14.319 --> 00:20:17.759
You know, he put in extra onions, and so I kind of get it.

00:20:17.839 --> 00:20:26.400
You know, maybe just the way you guys do it that way is perfect compared to human error, and so I I I might lose that burger, and I and I get it.

00:20:26.559 --> 00:20:42.960
And so um, but the where we do strive is once again that sort of attentive nature, that relationship building rapport, retention, and the just really caring about your client.

00:20:43.599 --> 00:20:51.599
That's the one thing I I think is the saving grace of this industry still, as much as it may have a bad rap and everyone has a bad experience.

00:20:51.839 --> 00:21:03.359
They can also mention the one time that Betty over in Time Life gave them the deal of the century, and they got that football phone and uh had a really nice experience.

00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:07.759
And so, you know, once in a while those are the good players in my industry.

00:21:08.640 --> 00:21:18.079
Well, it is uh customer relationship is number number one, especially when you need to talk to that customer, you know, directly.

00:21:18.240 --> 00:21:19.680
That that does help.

00:21:20.559 --> 00:21:21.119
Tigering.

00:21:21.359 --> 00:21:28.480
When you look at your life, what part of your journey is still feels surreal?

00:21:29.200 --> 00:21:30.079
Take us through that.

00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:36.799
Stepping off the plane and feeling the the warmth of Costa Rica for the first time.

00:21:38.000 --> 00:21:38.480
Really?

00:21:39.200 --> 00:21:48.880
You ever see those movies, and I know it sounds cliche and cheesy, where you have that weird background music or the like the tingles, you know, because all of a sudden something changed.

00:21:49.119 --> 00:21:51.039
Um I had that feeling.

00:21:51.599 --> 00:21:54.559
There was almost that thing where I was gonna die with my boots on.

00:21:54.720 --> 00:21:59.279
I was gonna do whatever I could to stay on this paradise where every day felt like a Saturday.

00:21:59.440 --> 00:22:06.640
And I I had a ton of people, family, friends, and other people trying to get me to come back home to do things.

00:22:06.799 --> 00:22:12.480
And so it's added love and sometimes protection and security.

00:22:13.359 --> 00:22:22.000
But those that take that sort of adventure in life and actually explore the cave, they might find gold.

00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:25.039
It's like a parent that doesn't want you to go on a roller coaster.

00:22:25.119 --> 00:22:26.240
They might think you get sick.

00:22:26.480 --> 00:22:28.799
What happens if you and I, Cali Cat, don't get sick?

00:22:28.960 --> 00:22:30.880
And we get the front row, which is the best, you know.

00:22:31.039 --> 00:22:33.039
And we're doing the loop-de-loops and stuff.

00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:34.799
We don't get sick, have a great time.

00:22:34.880 --> 00:22:36.799
It's one of the best experiences.

00:22:36.880 --> 00:22:38.640
And you got to live it.

00:22:38.799 --> 00:22:41.839
It's almost like if you even want to go back further.

00:22:42.079 --> 00:22:53.119
What I was experiencing by that was almost the rush, the euphoria of walking across the dance floor in eighth grade, asking your crush to dance, and her saying yes.

00:22:53.599 --> 00:22:55.279
And you couldn't believe it.

00:22:55.359 --> 00:22:58.160
You're as you talk about dreams.

00:22:59.440 --> 00:23:01.279
There's certain times of your life.

00:23:01.440 --> 00:23:03.039
It's a coming of age.

00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:07.680
And it wasn't me hitting a first home run or getting that first kiss or beating up a bully.

00:23:07.920 --> 00:23:12.720
This was a coming of age in my late twenties where I said, This is now your call.

00:23:13.119 --> 00:23:25.200
So I was very bold and brave and confident, and I was not gonna allow some small things to hold me back from this sort of thing that I felt destined.

00:23:25.839 --> 00:23:27.599
If that made any sort of sense.

00:23:27.920 --> 00:23:28.720
Yeah, it made sense.

00:23:28.880 --> 00:23:30.960
So you weren't scared at all?

00:23:31.279 --> 00:23:32.000
You just took it.

00:23:33.839 --> 00:23:38.240
And I feel like I you know, I'm from Philly, I'm from like Rocky.

00:23:38.480 --> 00:23:43.920
But no, I I tell you what, there's certain times you don't pet stray cats or poke bears.

00:23:44.160 --> 00:23:48.000
And I'm not down at three in the morning in boys town counting a row of hundreds.

00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:49.200
I mean, what's wrong with you?

00:23:49.279 --> 00:23:51.599
I mean, you you don't look for trouble.

00:23:51.839 --> 00:23:53.759
And trouble doesn't find you.

00:23:54.160 --> 00:23:58.079
And so I knew that being a guest in this country, if I followed rules.

00:23:58.319 --> 00:24:00.799
Here's an interesting thing, Callie Cat.

00:24:01.359 --> 00:24:18.799
I speak Spanish, but sometimes because some Anglo-Saxons, North Americans do not speak Spanish, that I might have been in an environment that might have been questionable, or I just wanted to feel the situation out, so I wouldn't say anything, just to see if these guys were saying something about me in Spanish.

00:24:18.880 --> 00:24:29.680
And so it was a wonderful protective shield that I had that would reduce any sort of fear or stress that I might have because things became much more clear in Idept.

00:24:29.839 --> 00:24:39.920
And so, yeah, I mean, it's you know, why not live a James Bond life, be the expat, not know anybody, be f 3,000 miles away from your mama?

00:24:40.400 --> 00:24:41.759
That's great, you know.

00:24:41.920 --> 00:24:43.200
You see what you do.

00:24:43.440 --> 00:24:45.200
So, um, why not, right?

00:24:45.359 --> 00:24:47.519
Drink life and see where it takes.

00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:49.039
Yeah.

00:24:49.359 --> 00:24:54.559
So, how important was your mindset in your success story?

00:24:54.799 --> 00:24:57.119
It was the discipline, my friend.

00:24:57.440 --> 00:24:57.839
Really?

00:24:58.480 --> 00:25:04.400
Yeah, because you can um still run around the deck, but if your ship's going in the right direction, it's good.

00:25:04.720 --> 00:25:10.720
So I needed at least to have certain things in my life where you have the structure and the discipline and it produced.

00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:19.039
And so the first thing was the gym, so I can keep my health, because I was in bad health, I would have no way been able to do this.

00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:33.680
And then secondly, surrounding myself with individuals that would then mold my personality to be able to do this because it changes a person.

00:25:34.720 --> 00:25:41.519
It's it's almost like an actor walking into a role, or you're always surprised when someone walks off the stage how they act.

00:25:42.400 --> 00:26:05.839
And so I had to put on the suit, and I had major responsibilities, and it's nonstop meetings and trainings and thinking on your feet, and so um, you know, you build this sort of persona that can that can handle that sort of rhythm and pace.

00:26:06.400 --> 00:26:07.839
Does it mean that it's you?

00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:18.319
I didn't say that it's you, but you put anybody in a rocket or a fast car, as long as they don't kill themselves, and they can still press the gas and go, anyone can hit 300.

00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:22.720
And so I hit 300 going fast, non-stop.

00:26:23.359 --> 00:26:25.519
And did I want to get off?

00:26:26.559 --> 00:26:27.599
It was too good.

00:26:27.759 --> 00:26:28.720
I got lucky.

00:26:29.039 --> 00:26:35.839
So sometimes you get as much as you can until it dries up, and so that's why I had a good long run.

00:26:36.799 --> 00:26:58.240
But um it's not for everybody, and there are certain times where you can't turn it off, and that's a shame because you and I could be hanging out and having a great time, but my mind could be elsewhere, thinking about an email, a training class, a client, and that's not fair to Calicat at all.

00:26:58.640 --> 00:27:06.160
And so right now, what I'm trying to do is to separate the two terribly.

00:27:06.319 --> 00:27:10.000
It's it's it's not easy because it's blended so.

00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:26.799
But if anybody that wants to be an entrepreneur, you gotta sometimes turn it off and go back to the person prior that you think you need to be, or who you have to be in order to get the job done.

00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:27.279
Right.

00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:48.640
Because um, yeah, because if I go hang out with my friends back in Philly and I start talking about telemarketing techniques, it's like cute for two minutes, maybe they'll like tease me for a second, but the last thing they want is to hear for an hour, like my friends, and maybe they they're not interested in metrics or KPIs or this sort of script writing and stuff.

00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:52.960
So you gotta choose your audience on this stuff, and that's all I've lived for this period of time.

00:27:53.039 --> 00:28:10.880
You gotta talk about other things, you gotta figure something else out, and so um it's a healthy mix if your audience is able to have that thing stacked and then once again have other piles of things that can bring you back to normalcy and ground you.

00:28:12.079 --> 00:28:16.240
Wow, I I love how you put that together.

00:28:16.480 --> 00:28:17.599
I fully understand.

00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:20.079
I know my audience will fully understand.

00:28:20.880 --> 00:28:22.559
So that that's that's amazing.

00:28:22.720 --> 00:28:23.759
It's amazing.

00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:26.000
Yeah.

00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:30.640
So do you feel more aligned um with your purpose?

00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:33.839
Today, yes.

00:28:35.359 --> 00:28:43.599
Yes, because I can see what's been accomplished after 19 years, so I can say, hey, look at look at all the bricks, look at the wall.

00:28:43.920 --> 00:28:52.000
But um in the beginning, it was the sort of thing where I I didn't like the fact that of the unknown.

00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:56.000
And that's such a terrible game to play with somebody.

00:28:56.319 --> 00:28:58.160
And nobody knows anyway.

00:28:58.319 --> 00:29:02.720
I mean, you don't know anything when you walk through a door, sit down to take a test, go on a date.

00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:04.240
Who knows what's gonna happen?

00:29:04.319 --> 00:29:12.960
And and so I I think a lot of my initial energy was focusing on the darkness, not what my candlelight could produce around me, so I don't step in things.

00:29:13.039 --> 00:29:21.759
And so um, if you're able to reduce that by a significant amount, you can you can focus on other things.

00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:38.160
But um it's maturity, Cali Cat, unless you had a mentor or your father passed a business to you and allowed you to sit next to them during meetings and decisions, it's very difficult to find that on your own.

00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:41.920
A lot of it's just trial and error, and then you figure it out.

00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:50.880
And so um a lot of mistakes were rookie mistakes, but most of my mistakes were when I had faith in somebody and I thought they were gonna come through.

00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:55.119
And um maybe I just had expectations.

00:29:55.359 --> 00:30:00.480
But uh as I said before, don't be hard on yourself.

00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:05.599
If you only had some sort of structure prior and a blueprint, it's easier.

00:30:05.680 --> 00:30:07.599
But if you're just as you say, how do you start?

00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:08.559
Where do you start?

00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:13.200
As I say, take big piles to small piles, divvy it out, see what's going on.

00:30:13.440 --> 00:30:15.200
It makes it easier to see.

00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:21.680
And um for me, what reduced my stress was these additional departments.

00:30:21.920 --> 00:30:26.640
As I mentioned, the ITHR, the lawyers, the whoever's, the security.

00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:28.000
Let them do it.

00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:29.119
You know what I mean?

00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:42.880
Um it's the smart person that would rather pay an extra ten bucks, right, and give himself some Wi-Fi when they walk off a plane somewhere in a country compared to trying to find a free Wi-Fi spot.

00:30:43.039 --> 00:30:49.680
Uh I if there's any way I can take a taxi directly to the hotel or get immediate Wi-Fi so I can get a map.

00:30:50.400 --> 00:30:52.559
Those things make the difference.

00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:56.240
Um, even a Cinnabon at the airport for 20 bucks.

00:30:56.640 --> 00:30:58.000
Give me the best one you ever had.

00:30:58.160 --> 00:31:09.200
So uh as I say, there's certain times in life you need to treat yourself, and so I just realized I could pay for things to either move to the front of the line or to make things a little bit easier to save time.

00:31:09.440 --> 00:31:10.000
Wow.

00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:14.079
You know, I'm an entrepreneur myself, but we'll we'll talk later.

00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:16.319
But this is all what you doing, Callie Cat.

00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:20.799
You always have a couple of things up your sleeve.

00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:24.160
We will talk offline on that one.

00:31:24.640 --> 00:31:40.640
Um as we wind down, I would like for the audience, including myself, I really want to know what would you as a I consider you a legend.

00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:53.039
Me personally coming from here, going to there, and what would you tell us?

00:31:54.319 --> 00:31:55.759
What is your legendary?

00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:56.960
What would you leave behind?

00:31:57.039 --> 00:32:00.640
What would people you want people to think of you?

00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:03.839
I guess just someone that was in a sense selfless.

00:32:03.920 --> 00:32:06.400
Why would someone move to another country and teach English?

00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:17.920
I mean there's business associated with it, but if you look at the core of where I've invested the majority of my time, it's at another country and representing our country in the best light.

00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:26.160
Um someone that was just an educator, someone that paid it forward in his own way.

00:32:26.400 --> 00:32:30.000
And it could be the kind of thing where it's like the butterfly effect.

00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:35.200
The 10,000 people, let's just say hypothetically, I didn't teach them English, they knew English.

00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:51.440
But I might have taught each one one thing that was something that was ethical, moral, or just in a way enhanced and experienced, and they could have passed it down to their wife and then the children and the grandchildren.

00:32:51.599 --> 00:33:04.160
So that one expression, that one manners at dinner, or the one polite way to answer the phone or say goodbye or to greet someone could be part of a tradition of the family.

00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:07.680
And I don't know, maybe it was.

00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:10.720
It's better than just handing someone a piece of candy.

00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:13.759
Yeah, it's tasty for five minutes and then it goes away.

00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:24.240
But then if I taught you something, then maybe by sharing an idea with you, that thing might last a couple years or maybe even more.

00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:28.079
And so 10,000, the odds are maybe ten people took something.

00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:28.799
Who knows?

00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:31.119
You know, but at least those ten.

00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:34.960
And um, that's more than enough.

00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:44.400
And so I guess my legacy was just someone that just um was naturally drawn to another environment for one reason or another.

00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:45.119
Yeah.

00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:46.720
I think it's beautiful.

00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:48.480
Thank you, Callie Cat.

00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:50.720
I think it's very beautiful.

00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:53.599
You have a very beautiful legacy.

00:33:53.759 --> 00:34:04.000
I mean, I was reading your bio, I checked out some of your podcasts, and I was like, Don't get nervous talking to him on your podcast, Callie.

00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:06.000
Not selling a book.

00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:07.599
Oh my goodness.

00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:09.440
Maybe you should sell a book.

00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:14.800
You maybe you should hire somebody and put the book together and and put it out there.

00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:17.679
I mean, get your ebook, Amazon.

00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:20.719
I think you're just an amazing individual.

00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:22.079
Thank you, Kelly.

00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:22.719
Maybe one day.

00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:26.719
You're giving you're giving no, you're an amazing individual now.

00:34:26.960 --> 00:34:34.159
You were an amazing individual when you left Philly at twenty-seven, stepped in in another country.

00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:36.320
Look how successful you were.

00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:38.000
You didn't stop.

00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:47.440
You just kept going, and then you was like, you know, I don't know the name uh it started with A, your high school, and you gave back.

00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:49.280
Who who does that?

00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:55.440
There's not a lot of Yeah, I I mean, seriously, who does that?

00:34:57.679 --> 00:34:59.679
Yeah, it it takes you over there.

00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:02.719
Uh I wish everybody would uh give back.

00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:10.880
You're just an amazing individual and you it just uh You know, Kelly something you're so kind.

00:35:11.119 --> 00:35:19.519
And unfortunately a lot of people did not have a good high school experience, they didn't have friends, which is a shame.

00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:25.360
And so for me, I I like to give credit where credit is due, besides the teachers.

00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:33.440
I had some of the best friends back then that were very kind and united.

00:35:33.519 --> 00:35:43.519
And so um I tell you what, the greatest thing you can have along the way are real individuals in your life.

00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:53.360
The ones that like you for who you are, that call you just to say hi, not because they want 20 bucks or they want you to move some furniture or something.

00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:55.840
So, yo Callie, what's going on with you?

00:35:56.000 --> 00:35:59.039
Yeah, what's happening, us things, you know, just call me anytime.

00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:04.239
Or you know the best of the friends, the ones that remember things about you.

00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:20.320
Not just birthdays, but if you, you know, mention a small thing, or someone instead of just when you mention something like your tap broom and how to start those things, instead of saying, Oh, yeah, that's great, Callie, but then go, yo, Callie, what's your favorite beer?

00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:22.960
I saw that you had Heineken in one picture one time, right?

00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:24.239
On that Instagram page.

00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:25.760
And so, yeah, you're cool.

00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:30.400
And so um you ask two to three or four follow-up questions.

00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:34.960
So instead of going horizontal, you go vertical to give you the roots.

00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:37.440
So you find out more.

00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:44.239
And um, I guess my skill is I find people extremely interesting and they tell me some amazing stories.

00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:46.880
And I like a third grader, I keep asking more questions.

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You know, my wife's like, What are you doing?

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I'm like, come on, Calicot's so interesting.

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Tell me more, tell me more.

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Yeah.

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Oh, the one thing I did, I I do every year, believe it or not, I stand in line for 18 hours to get a beer.

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Yes.

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Uh it's in uh Sonoma County, so it's uh it's Russian River.

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And people fly around the world, and it's always on the news, and people they're there at three, four o'clock in the morning um uh to wait for the uh grand opening of this beer that they produce once a year.

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And I'm one of those people that stand in line for 18, maybe 20 hours to get a beer.

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That's so old school.

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It's like you're waiting for in excess rock tickets.

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I love it.

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You must make the best friends out there.

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That must be a huge party, right?

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I love talking to people.

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It's just, you know, you go talk, socialize, you know.

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It's the atmosphere, the vibe is good.

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People, people, I love people.

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You should do like a special episode where you take like five to ten minutes for first and stick them together for like a podcast episode.

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Yeah, you're right.

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I'm gonna take that idea.

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Okay, as we wind down, I like to take the time to say thank you.

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I really appreciate you.

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Tell us a story about the journey and know my audience.

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We're gonna step it out.

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This is a winter class.